what do you think about the 67 year old mother?

Question

personally, i think it's extremely selfish on her behalf: by the time her kids are eighteen, she'll be eighty five...you could say "well as long as she's a good mother, then it doesn't matter", but even if she's the best in the world, she's not gonna live for most of their lives, so it's practically guaranteeing they won't have a mother by the time they hit 20..i know she lied about her age, but how can a clinic let it happen? shouldn't there be a birth certificate or some sort of document involved? i think IVF is a great thing, but nature has its laws and maybe exceding them a bit is fine, but 67...that's just wrong (in my opinion). their mum is probably going to be older than most of their friends' grandmothers! what are your thoughts? also, anyone who can fight my argument to try and change my mind is very welcome.

Answer 1

I do love a good debate, so I do wish I could fight your arguement - but I can't! Nature has it's way of ensuring that we women bear children and bring them up whilst we're physically and emotionally capable or doing so (and even then it can be difficult!). The energy involved in nurturing a baby and bringing up a child is enormous and even young mothers can feel exhausted at times - just imagine what it's going to be like being the mother of a 3 year old at 70!! The mind boggles. Plus all the angst when a child grows to be a teenager; how on earth is an 80 year old going to cope with all the dramas, and even attempt to understand the emotions of a 13 year old? I rest my case. OMG, I've just re-read your question and realise that we're talking more than one, so TWINS!! That's really scary. So...... double-up on everything I've already said - it all sounds impossible; they'll grow-up, but the mother can't possibly fulfil the task of being their mother in every sense. Crazy!

Answer 2

So you have trouble with older mothers, teenage mothers... you think that the perfect child, and family will come if the mother is what age 29-34? Are you against single mothers?



Her body let her get pregnant, albeit with help. There are a lot of women in their 30s that need help too, due to scarring etc. Should they not be allowed to have kids? Where do you draw the lines? I'm going to assume you're also against single mothers as well. What about men that are in their 60s/70s who get much younger women pregnant. Is that wrong too? If a birth mother dies from a disease, etc do you also find it wrong for them to be raised by a grandparent? The grandparent could die before the child hits 21. Should that be against the moral law of our society?



A perfectly healthy women with 2.5 children who stays home with her kids and has the perfect husband who earns 100K a year and works 10 months out of the year could be mowed down tomorrow by a drunk driver. Really, age is not a factor anymore when it comes to raising children. I was 18 when I had my first daughter. I was a teenager theoretically. Should that have been outlawed by our society since I didn't fit the age rule? There are many 30 year old women who are married who have absolutely no right to be raising or having children. Drug testing for pregnant/new moms would make much more sense than the arguements you are trying to raise.



Goes back to the abortion topic, mandatory birth control topic, etc etc etc. Everyone's body really is their own. Age doesn't matter in a society where people live to be 114, and thousands are dying young from being smokers.

Answer 3

All I have to say is that I hope she has a will and has establish who will get the children if she were to pass away before they become adults, which may or may not be likely...people are living to 116 nowadays. I don't think it is a good idea to have children at 67 though: as a parent-you will miss weddings and grandchildren, etc. and as the child- they will not get to share those things. On top of all of the traditional things (what will be missed, the children will be without a mother & probably father at a young age & they will not have the energy to play and care for them), the children will have to care for their parents before they are even ready to take care of themselves,how can they take care of children if they don't have good retirement or if they get sick, and having children at an older age increases the children's chances of physical and mental problems. Fine, she did it but she better have everything in place for them or it is just irresponsible.

Answer 4

I am all for people wanting children and not having a partner and going for IVF if there body has changed to much or for whatever reason. But she is SELFISH all she will eventually do is break her childrens hearts because she knows she will die before they are emotionally stable. It must be hard for anyone who parents die especially when they are young i mean you dont know when you time is up but there is a bit of a limit and i think she is far exceeding that limit.

Answer 5

There are biological reasons as to why women don't, naturally, give birth to offspring as they get beyond a certain age. The purpose of the mother is not just to have babies, but to nurture and care for their offspring. The older you get, the less chance you have of doing this for a long period. It's less of a problem in the animal world, where young are born and then raised to adulthood much more quickly. In the human world we need parenting for at least 16-18 years, and by then we have, hopefully, built up a strong relationship with our parents which most would not want cut short. To have to deal with extreme old age, whilst still a teenager, is very demanding. In short I think its great for her, but not so for the children.

Answer 6

I see the troll with the hand has hit you too. Nice.



Anyways, as far as this woman is concerned, I think it is incredibly selfish too. She's not going to live for the years her kids need her the most.



And, is she going to physically be able to withstand all the demands that having a youngster makes on you? My step-mom is 60 and can't even PICK UP my almost 2 year old. How in the world is she going to make it to all the games and deal with boo-boos and all of that?



Will she take the demands out on the child? I know that my grandma would have had a coronary if she knew half the things I did as a kid, but what she did know about, she had the luxury of knowing that I had a mother to take care of it. This woman IS the mother...



Ugg. I think it's terrible.

Answer 7

I believe that if she got pregnant, then she was meant to have that baby. She may or may not live to see that child grow up, but we have no way of knowing that. People are living to be in their 100's these days. Any parent who has a child could be dead before their children grows up. Granted that the grandmother is at a risky age, she may outlive the child. We don't know the future. I do know that I don't live in the woman's house or pay her bills. As long as she can provide everything that child needs, I feel she should be allowed the chance to be a mother. Thank you.

Answer 8

I say more power to her. If she is emotionally/physically and financially capable of caring for them, then it isn't anyone else's business.



Granted, she is going to age (like everyone else) as her kids get older and she might die and miss a lot, but I am sure she has probably thought all of that out too. I think every woman should be able to experience the birth of a child if they want to.



Besides, just because she is going to die one day and miss parts of her kids' lives, doesn't mean she shouldn't be a mother. I could die tomorrow and never seen my kids graduate high school. Life happens. You shouldn't put things on hold because of your age.



I think it is sad that she had to lie in order to be able to go to the clinic.

Answer 9

I do think it is way too old in fact I think once you are past 40 it is a bit old to be having children you have to think about how long you are going to be able to be around for your kids. Yes I know accidents happen and I could die tomorrow leaving my four year old daughter behind but I also think about the Downs Syndrome rates that go up when you get older and just being able to do all the things you want to do with your kids so yes 67 is far too old to bring a child into the world.

Answer 10

I think it's just an example of how selfish people in soceity have become, people only think about themselves and refuse to see the bigger picture. I'm 36 and my half sister is 11. My dad is 62 and everyone thinks he's her grandad. He has how asked my children who are 13,14 + 16 to stop calling him grandad in public, so they go one better than that and call my half sister aunty, but it's true! she is their auntie. I wish people would think outside the box and see the bigger picture.

Answer 11

Completely selfish. Just because she realized she's elderly, close to the grave, she suddenly had a panic attack that she hadn't procreated and she brought kids into this world who are here to fulfill some empty space in her life (didn't her mother die just before she decided to do this?). She sounds mentally unstable and where's a father-figure for the children? Can't see her running with the kids while they try to learn how to ride a bike. Sad.

Answer 12

You know....men do it all the time.

I think children are great whenever... the only problem is that often times our energy starts to wain as we age and its nice to give them back to someone younger...what do you think about all these grandparents raising their grandkids because their parents can't. Don't think its any different. And who are we to say that this mother won't live to be in her 90's?

Answer 13

I totally agree with you.it`s just selfish and wrong.What sort of life can a 72 year old mum give to a 5 year old child...none.

Answer 14

My father died when I was 17 he was 47 years old. He died because he went into diebitic shock.



I just want to say that a parent is a parent regardless of age and no one is perpared for theirs to die but at least they did get to know their parents before they did pass away and for that they are truely grateful. As I am with my father, Even though he died when I was young and never got to see me make a family I will be able to tell my son all about him when he gets older.



I don't see how she could be selfish. Yes it will hurt the child that she has past away but I think the child would be grateful that she ever had brought them into the world. That she even had to lie to do it but at least she did bring them into the world and they will love her for that.



All of our time on this earth is short regardless of how long we live. So If she wanted to go out and have a baby then I don't see why she shouldn't. Women risk their lives everyday delivering baby's some babies don't even get to know their parents because they are put up for adoption, or they mother dies while giving birth, Or the father dies before the baby is born.



At least with this baby they will get to know their mother for a short time and I am sure she tells them that one day she is going to pass away and that they have to be perpared for that and that they can just enjoy the time they have with each other now.



I really don't see what the problem is with this. Everyday young mothers give their children for there grandparents to raise because they don't have time for the baby because they are to busy having their own life.



Out of all the stuff that is going on in the world these days with children. You should be least worried about the child because at least it will be loved while she is on this earth and that is all that any of us can hope for while we are on this earth to be loved and to love someone else.



If you were her child and you were 20yrs old and she passed away. I know you would feel like I said above. You would be happy that she brought you into this world instead of just dieing with out doing it. All parents are selfish. We bring children into this world of our own doing. We want our family to be bigger, Or maybe we just love children. What ever her reason was I am glad she did it.



Because I know that even though my time was short with my father. At least, At least I did get to know him and he loved me, And even though it pains me everyday from his loss and the things in my life he missed. I would never, ever wish he wouldn't have brought me into this world. The same thing goes for those children that there mothers have passed away while giving birth to them.

Also I was married for 6mths when I got pregant with my son. He is now 2 years old and I was 18 when I got pregnat with him. I don't see why this would bother you so much Because no matter what All a child wants is love regardless of if it comes from a 65yr old mother or a 25 yr old mother

Answer 15

I too think that it was extremely selfish of her to lie about her age. There are reasons why there are rules in place and you need to legally abide by them. I think she should be arrested for false statements and the babies should be put up for adoption.

She will not be able to play with these kids.

Answer 16

It's none of your d@mned business when people chose to have children. I bet most of the people that have a problem with her having kids are also pro choice, so if you don't have a problem with someone murdering her own baby than shut up about people chosing to have a kid.

It's not like she's 16 and can't provide for the kid.

Answer 17

What is done is done, and she is happy and she must have really wanted babies, maybe her whole life she suffered from not having childrean, and wishing and praying and took years of stress and heartach. People dont always think like how other's will see it, they have spent life time watching others have what they dream of....in her case it is having a baby.....and it just took a very very very long time, and there was a way and found a loop whole and jumped in it, and that was not telling her real age.



Its hard to judge, I dont feel she is selfish she put herself in some health danger's to have babies.....we never know how long any of us will be alive when we have a child, yes we hope we will live a long time, to see them grow and do all we can with them. so just have to take it how it is and make the very best of herself and her babies.

Answer 18

I totally agree with you.

I had my kids in my twenties and now, several years later, they are grown up and I can start having a bit of 'me' time before grandchildren arrive and I have the babysitting lark to deal with.

I totally know where you are coming from......I think its gross too!

Answer 19

Totally selfish. How is she going to take her kids the park and run around with them, also as you get to that age you want peace and quiet, your patience isnt as good and your energy levels are down.

Its just not fair on the child.

Answer 20

I agree- even if she was 55 - she was selfish - those kids will never know what it's like to have real parents - they'll be raised by God knows who

Answer 21

If she could not have children earlier then she should not have any now. She is just a selfish old cronie A sad old cow that should know better she is not only a burden to herself but to society as wel.l sad old cow.

Answer 22

I dont think its our business..



I would rather see someone who is financially able to bring children into this world do it than a teenager who lives off the government. Who are we to judge??



Its kind of funny actually.. kind of reverses the idea of grandparents raising their grandchildren.. If something happened to her it would be her other kids raising the siblings.

Answer 23

i totally agree with you. i hope she has someone good lined up to keep care of them when she is to old to remember they are her children.

Answer 24

I agree, I think that it was a wrong, stupid, and selfish thing of her to do. She probably won't live to see their 10th birthday party.

Answer 25

i think she was stupid and selfish she didn't stop to think of the kids i also think she should be put behind bars for lying those kids should be put up for adoption if she wanted to have kids she should have made that choice sooner



i also think it gross......

Answer 26

Far to old, think of the child, time it leaves school, it mum could be dead

Answer 27

I agree it is selfish. And why would anyone want a baby at that age?? It's beyond me!

Answer 28

I think that it is none of our business. If she wanted to have a child, that is her right. Rather than talking about her let's get on with our lives.

Answer 29

Well, its not like this happens all the time, so in this case I feel that its really none of my business

Answer 30

she was good for her age

Answer 31

as opposed to being a mother at 16?

Answer 32

My thoughts are that it's none of my business. I doubt that that child will regret being born.

Answer 33

doesnt bother me...got friends with much older parents and they;re ok

Answer 34

SHE HAS A MENTAL DISORDER OR SOMETHING. I CAN'T BELIEVE IT, SHE HAD TWINS!