Question:
how do i punish my children?
anonymous
1970-01-01 00:00:00 UTC
how do i punish my children?
Twenty answers:
Mom
2007-10-21 09:23:31 UTC
As a mother of three, I understand what you are going through. My kids are generally well behaved, but when they don't, I found timeouts were not that effective. My older son and daughter would just sit there and daydream as well. My middle son hates timeouts, so that works for him. But the other two I have to get creative.



Every kid has their Achilles heal, you just need to get creative and find it, and work it into an effective punishment. For my 6 year old son, we have a neighbor that he loves to play with 24/7. So if he misbehaves, he's not allowed to go outside and play, and he HATES that. So I found that to be effective. Another punishment, which I'm sure Supernanny would not agree with, lol - is I give them a chore to do that they don't like - like picking up all the toys in the playroom, putting away their folded clothes - anything age appropriate. For certain behaviors, we used a reward chart, and rewarded good behavior rather than focusing on the bad ones. If we're out somewhere and they misbehave, we leave immediately (which sometimes is more of a punishment for me) but gets the point across.



I hope this helps a little!!
TimTam
2007-10-21 09:30:06 UTC
You have to have a timeout spot for each of them- somewhere boring as in the bottom step of a staircase, a different place for each child. Everytime they are naughty you give them ONE warning that if they don't stop it they will go in time out. After that straight to time out. One minute per year of the child - 3 yr old: 3 mins, 8 yr old: 8 mins. At first they will test your patience and kick & scream, or leave. Ignore their pleas, put them back until they stay there for their full time. Don't give in ever as they will learn that you are not serious.

If you are out of the house and they misbehave inform them that they will go into timeout as soon as you get home - and DO it!

But you also need to reward good behaviour otherwise no punishment will work. They are both at the age where star charts will work. Both rewarding for good behaviour and punishing for bad will create healthy happy children. And give them chores to do to earn extra stars -that gives them less time to be naughty!! Exchange stars for a trip out. Rewarding children with more toys, or sweets, is a waste of time as they don't value these things anymore. Reward them with a special day out alone with mom or dad doing something they love to do. Best of luck, it's hard but if you keep it up you will be rewarded in the end :-)
katiegm2002
2007-10-21 10:45:46 UTC
Spanking should be the last resort. These 2 creative minds need to be challenged by age appropriate activities. I too was such a child, but was controlled by lots of love & freedom to explore the out doors, kicking cans, climbing trees, jumping ropes, playing hop scotch & "whippings" (40's style) as a last resort. Kids without physical activities are often unruly. I grew up to be a responsible adult with responsibility for 3 active boys (1 set of twins)who also grew up to be responsible adults with children of their own. So you see, kids do care, you just don't see it until you are the grandparent.
anonymous
2007-10-21 09:26:01 UTC
These things didn't just appear out of the blue. They have been building since their very first days. You have to establish some type of consistent discipline with your children. You think they don't care, but they care. My eight and three year old nephews, are similar to your children. And the control their parents have and the control that I have are like day and night. Sometimes kids have to have the fear of God put in them, and the rest will work itself out. In their lifetime I have never put hands on them, but they know I will. Bill Cosby has the classic line "I brought you into this world and I'll take you out!"
blackwidow
2007-10-21 10:00:52 UTC
I'm not going to sit here and tell you that you should have started earlier or anything like that. All parents are different in their disciplinary decisions. However, you have a tough one on your hands. You really need to ask yourself what they do care about that won't have a negative affect on them, i.e. education, etc. What is the one thing that your daughter loathes doing. My daughter absolutely detests sorting odd socks, so guess what happens when she steps out of line. My youngest loves to ride his bicycle and I let him do it often. However, when he misbehaves, that time is limited. I'm not taking it away, I'm limiting it and that really bothers him and his behavior improves. And, don't fool yourself, they do care! You just haven't found that one thing that makes them tick. Find it and life will improve. Good luck!
karnythia
2007-10-21 09:50:26 UTC
I'd make the 8 year write me an essay on what she'd done wrong and why it was a poor choice. What does the 3 year old love to do? If all else fails, completely strip his room (I'm talking bare to the walls) and make him earn back his things.
YA RLY
2007-10-21 09:18:30 UTC
I'm against any kind of violence towards children. I'd say take away her privileges, if they don't care about any other form of punishment then your gonna have to resort to that, its the only way to make them see that being punished is not something they want happening to them.



Failing that, give supernanny a call =)
cyranonew
2007-10-21 10:12:33 UTC
It seems that you have just great kids. They are smart and creative and know that you will not harm them. All you have to do is to convince them that certain things should not be done. When you have succeeded they won't do them any more.

Good luck!
anonymous
2007-10-21 10:25:17 UTC
It's obvious that "punnishment" is not working for you. AND, using cleaning for punishment??? You need "parenting counselling".



My wife and I did not punish our son and daughter and neither of them ever shouted, back answered of disobeyed us.



There's and old adage, "You can catch more flies with honey than you can with vinegar."



Try rewarding your children for their good behaviour. Right now, your kids are getting recognized for their "missbehavior". Praise them for their efforts. Do not redicule them for missbehavior. Say something like this! "I am so proud of you for what you did today. You ate all you cereal and you put your plate in the dishwasher."





In early history, Solomon advised:



"Discipline your children and they will give you rest" (Book of Proverbs 29:17)

and more directly:



"He who spares the rod hates his son, but he who loves him is careful to discipline him." (Book of Proverbs 13:24)

and similarly warned:



"..A mother is disgraced by a neglected child." (verse 15b).

These parts of the Bible continue to influence conservative Christians and Jews today, notably James Dobson.



For Christians, any use of the above references must take into account the instruction of Paul in the New Testament:



"Fathers, do not provoke your children to anger, but bring them up in the discipline and instruction of the Lord." (Ephesians 6:4)



Corporal punishment has been found to be consistently related to poor mental health; including depression, unhappiness, anxiety, and feelings of hopelessness in children and youth. Corporal punishment is a risk factor for relationship problems, including impairment of parent-child relationships, increased levels of aggression and anti-social behaviour in children, raised thresholds for defining an act as violent, and perpetration of violence as an adult, including abuse of one's family members.





http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_discipline



If you use physical punishment and/or verbal scolding your chilld will learn those behaviors from you and later he will use it on you.



Read parenting books and articles on positive reinforcement.





Good Luck!
iampatsajak
2007-10-21 09:16:15 UTC
This is difficult. What kind of issues are the kids having that they need punished for?
CrazyChick
2007-10-21 10:45:29 UTC
You're talking a lot about punishments, but how are you rewarding?



First, I would draw the line at having them do anything for punishment that you want them to do all the time anyway. Your kids shouldn't see having to do the laundry or clean their room as punishment, those are activities they should be doing every day. Because of that, it's about as useful punishment as being told they have to brush their teeth for punishment.



A lot of the time, the apathy they are showing for the punishments is from the punishment being overused. It loses its sting.



I would suggest finding something to motivate them in a positive way. Give them something to anticipate and work for, and the "punishment" is that they don't get that thing. It can be anything, based on what they like. My kids are big into video games, so as a way to cut back on gametime (they wanted to play every day) and to motivate them during the week, we only have games available for the weekends. They know this, and they know that if they get in a certain amount of trouble (be realistic in your expectations -- don't automatically say they can't do it because on Monday one of them smarts off), they don't get to play that weekend, and will just have to try harder the next week. They're six and four, and this is working out relatively well. The realization that they lost their last chance to play games for another week is more effective than most anything else.



It's important to mention here that it's not ever put out there as a bribe. We're very careful not to say "IF you behave". Saying that kind of opens them up to be able to decide that good behavior is optional.



I would say, instead of sitting your three-year-old down and trying to talk about "what he did wrong", sit him down and talk to him about what he should be doing right. Try to encourage him to be empathetic, realizing that his actions can help or hurt others, and make his discipline go along those lines. For example, if he hits his sister, he has to give his sister something (typically, fights over video games in our house end with the one who was in the wrong -- if it was just ONE of them -- having to put his controller away, and knowing that the other is still in there playing Mario).



With the time outs, they look at you like "you've got to be kidding, right?" because they know you aren't going to stick to your guns. For a while, one of my kids was like that, but he changed his tune after I camped out right by his time out corner and everytime he talked, I told him he was not allowed to talk, and every time he tried to turn around, I told him to stick his nose back in the corner. It only took a few times of showing him that I was as adamant about him doing the time out as he was about not doing it and that I most certainly WAS serious, before he started realizing that it was not optional. Don't lose your cool, just tell him to get in time out. When he looks at you like he thinks you're kidding, force him to do it. Doing that enough times will show him that you mean it.



Of course, I don't know, but it just seems to me that you are so focused on the negative, punishing instead of motivating, that I can understand why your kids aren't responding to it. Add to that the fact that you aren't all that consistant (they dont' know if what they're doing is a spanking offense, a time out offense, a discussion offense or a cleaning offense), and I can see where you're having problems.



For their sake, I would strongly suggest that you try very hard to try to reward or praise them as often as you punish them. It's disturbing to hear a parent who describes their children in almost entirely negative terms.
anonymous
2007-10-21 11:12:32 UTC
How about taking away privileges for a couple of day.

No T.V.

No friends Phone Calls.

More chores around the house.

If that does not work....How about more spankings.



Question; If you do not mind!!!! How do you spank?



Please write and tell.

Thanks.

Laurey.

laureycraig66@yahoo.ca
CC
2007-10-21 09:13:48 UTC
Well, for one thing you should have started earlier. You put them in time out EVERY time they don't listen. They sit in a chair where you can see them, you ignore their crying, and when they calm down, explain to them why they are in time out and do they understand why they were put there...make them apologize. If they try to get out of the chair, simply go over there, put them back and don't say anything. When you punish, you have to be consistent. If you give in at all, they are going to know they can push you to give in. Don't give in. No more than one warning.
Suzy
2007-10-21 10:29:42 UTC
You have to be more specific ..

and you have to use logical consequences.



Spankings are stupid and barbaric in todays society.

Peope get reported if they beat a dog..

yet the American people are allowed to beat a child.
anonymous
2007-10-21 13:44:34 UTC
IM 14 AND I WAS A BRAT WHEN I WAS LITTLE SO MY MOM WOULD PUNISH ME BY AVCTING LIKE SHE DIDNT CARE ABOUT ME AND TAKING AWAY THE STUFF I LIKE I KNOW ITS HARD WITH CHILDRIN BUT DONT WORRY THEYLL GROW UP AND NOT EVEN WANNA SEE YOU EVERY SECOND AND BE MORE INDEPENDINT GOOD LUCK!
merle
2016-05-24 04:32:51 UTC
Dunking there head in a barrel of water while kidney punching them it works wonders.
anonymous
2007-10-21 10:14:15 UTC
You'll just have to find out what makes them 'tick'.......or else just go with one discipline for the rest of the time.
anonymous
2007-10-21 09:17:38 UTC
I know taking away her books may be crazy but you have to take away the things that bring them joy
I'm the mommy!!
2007-10-21 10:40:17 UTC
OOOH MAN I FEEL YOUR PAIN!!!!!!!! I also have an 8 yo *my fiances nephew whom I have played the roll of his mother for 6 of his 8 years, his mother is addicted to drugs, and when he came to us had speech, mental, emotional problems so he has been quite the handful* we also have a 2yo of our own, who thinks of our older child as his big brother, so he copies everything etc. my son *the 2 yo* like yours if VERY smart, he can open child proof medication bottles *NOT GOOD* anyway, i have done it all myself, spanking, taking toys away etc. time outs don't work for me much of the time, my 2 year old will not always sit there he usally runs away the first chance he gets, he is very mischievous, spanking is a joke! i am petite 4'11 110 lbs and there is no way to spank my 8 yo! my 2 year old does the same as yours laughs! with my older one, i would tell him to get in the corner *automatically 8 mins* he would say but! *ok theres another minute* he's start crying i would say ok well you can just stand there until you can be quiet and i will start your time, if he did anything against the rules *talking, looking somewhere other than the corner, etc* I would add another minute, one time the kid got to 23 minutes before he finally stopped throwing his fit and i made him stand there the WHOLE TIME, you say time out doesn't work but, i know with my 2 year old i have to put him back when he runs out, I watch super nanny a lot, it's consistancy, there is also a book i have called 123 magic for ages 2-12 i read it through and incorperated my own magic, i still have wars, but that's kids for you! they will constantly test your limits, and push you to the edge, i don't know if you do anything to this sort, but i get very angry to the point i just wanna SCREAM! sometimes i feel anger i didn't know existed within my soul..... my kids can drive my completely mad at times, you really just have to find something that will work. i'm sure there are some things that your 3 year old would not like to have taken away! when my son does something i feel he should be punished for, i get down on his level and tell him that mommy is not happy because you through your toy at your cousin, so you will have a time out in your room until you can be nice, he will run out i put him back in he'll throw toys ai start bagging them up who cares if he doesn't seem to care, he will later when he wants to play with them, and leave them put away for a LONG time, with my son i just have to keep putting him back and putting him back, i do it until i think i just can't anymore i want to give in but just when i think that, he will stay in his room, he may be screaming and yelling and acting crazy but he is still in his room where i told him to stay. same with the time out, no matter how frusterated you get, just keep putting him back!! where there is a will there is a way, as for your 8 yo, find things she DOESN'T LIKE, and make her do that, don't let he play with her friends tell her ALL she is allowed to do is read her books, i grounded my older son for over a week, i did not let him play games, tv, play with friends, he was allowed to sit in his room and read, and i know that it is not easy when they are whining and driving you crazy because they can't do things, when mine did that i send him to his room, i did that consistantly for months, and i have no had to put my older one in the corner in weeks! he has not been grounded for months! my 2 year old is still a struggle but i can and will get him to stay in his room, for me the time out is what works the best, but you have to be consistant, my biggest problem now is the smart *** remarks my 8 yo makes, and the talking back! so i count him and he will stop! *1/2/3* it also only works if YOU STICK TO YOUR GUNS! sounds to me like you have quite the chaos going on, i knew i needed to get a handle on it fast before mine get older and doing WORSE.

i don't think i helped much, i just wanted to share with you, that i am also in your position, and began to loose faith in all parenting techniques! but i've learned you just gotta show them your not giving in.
anonymous
2007-10-21 10:50:51 UTC
it is kind of late to start punishing now. Anyways, just spank them again and if they don't cry, keep spanking until they do. But don't go overboard and leave any marks!


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